Bayonet dating have dating rules changed
Gary, wouldn't it be possible that early production M4's be issued with an M8 scabbard as they both came out in the same month? It was issued of course as a substitute for the M3 knife as the M1 Carbine fitted for bayonet was certainly not an item of issue at that time.I have a PAL M4 with a BMCO M8 and they "look" like they have been together for some time, as they are both in identical condition, but of course they is no way of determining that for sure. It is certainly nice that you have such firm provenance so we can begin to set date parameters for the issue of the item.Thanx, butch Yes, it would be possible that some very early M4 bayonets were shipped with M8 scabbards. This the earliest I have seen the M-4 knife-bayonet and M-8 (M-8A1) in overseas use -- and in the MTO at that. It has all the other proper features described above for a WWII piece.The bayonet would have to be early production, and in the case of PAL (and most other makers) would have square grooves in the grip rather than the V cut grooves, and possibly would have 8 grooves rather than 6. It is currently mated with a guard marked Case M3 (no bomb) and a legit leg strap. Just to resume, there are my three BM Co scabbards.Some Albanian guns have no year reference numbers on them.I would tend to believe these would be either prior to 1967 or after 1979 with the latter being the most reasonable.
The photo shows a Kinfolks with this very early style grip. Just to resume, there are my three BM Co scabbards.
Keep in mind that a large number of M8A1 scabbards are marked M8 on the throat as the die was not changed for several months.
Frank Trzaska wrote an excellent article on the M3 and the scabbards in the January 2008 issue of Knife World. It has a length of OD paarchute cord as a tie-down thong and has been sharpened.
Guard marked M3s were made from November 1943 to July 1944, and would normally be only found in the M8 scabbard although some of the very early production MAY have been issued in the M6.
The changeover from the M3 knife to the M4 knife-bayonet and the change from the M8 to the M8A1 both occurred in July 1944 and the M4 should normally be found in the M8A1 scabbard.
I have a ' US M3 Camillus' blade marked M3 I don't have a scabbard for it, and am looking for one... Greetz Three things make for a correct WW2 M8 scabbard 1. To quickly summarize, the blade marked and dated M3 knife was manufactured from March 1943 to September 1943.